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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Rommel » Sunday 11th November, 2012 2:56 pm

Hi,

I have late war germans!

Currently in the process of painting up the 78. Stumdivision and 189. Sturmgeschutzabteilung. Which essentially means lots of MG teams with panzerfausts and StG G platoons with tank escorts. I also have the makings of the 2. SS Panzerdivision 'Das Reich'.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Mattman » Sunday 11th November, 2012 5:24 pm

Think I will be picking up the rulebook at some point for a read. WWII games have always intrigued me.
Like the fact that there are several companies that do models, so you aren't restricted to a single manufacturer.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Rommel » Monday 12th November, 2012 4:52 pm

Campaign Idea? :

Ardennes Offensive campaign day - then alternative history campaign - start with Dec/Jan 1945 era map then re-write history? Could even re-jig some of the more minor fronts to allow Soviets and Allies to battle, might get tiring of just fighting Nazis? Uncle Joe doesn't like those Capitalist pigs!

Maybe Nordwind wasn't the last German offensive, maybe they retook France and pushed the Soviets back to Moscow. The war goes on till 1946 - in time for mass production of the Panzer VIII Maus to take the battlefields.

Could be interesting.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Rick » Wednesday 14th November, 2012 4:53 pm

What about terrain? We can use the standard hills, woods and rubble but it would be nice to have some to scale buildings, walls, hedges etc. to. Do we have space available in the locker?

I'm almost finished reading through the core rules and I've got myself a copy of red bear (although I can't see any changes for the standard force organisations from previous books so those with 2nd ed intel books are probably fine).
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Mattman » Wednesday 14th November, 2012 5:08 pm

I suspect the majority of the terrain would have to be different, just from a scale perspective, but compared to WFB/40k it doesn't have to be as tall or awkwardly shaped so would be easier to store, not to mention the buildings are usually no more than simple box shapes.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby noodle » Wednesday 14th November, 2012 5:28 pm

I have 2 boxes (2 tables) of FoW specific terrain including buildings and fields.

Woods and hills are the same scale!
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Tommen » Thursday 15th November, 2012 4:25 am

Rommel wrote:Campaign Idea? :
The war goes on till 1946 - in time for mass production of the Panzer VIII Maus to take the battlefields.

If you want 1946 you might like this guys stuff ;) http://heer46.blogspot.co.uk/
FiB do some cool stuff too, but I cant be doing with based vehicles :(
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Foz » Monday 19th November, 2012 12:40 pm

I'm currently (very slowly) building British 11th Armoured Division, but waiting on bits from Plastic Soldier Company to come out.
So in the meanwhile I'm putting a rag tag, currently non named, late war German army together.

I'm perfectly happy with anyone borrowing either of my armies, or doing demo games, when I can remind myself on the 3rd Ed. rules.

Also I have a reasonable historical knowledge, especially of Allied bits and pieces, plus I know other companies that sell 1:100/15mm bits that I can point people at.

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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Foz » Monday 19th November, 2012 12:45 pm

Tommen wrote:
Rommel wrote:Campaign Idea? :
The war goes on till 1946 - in time for mass production of the Panzer VIII Maus to take the battlefields.

If you want 1946 you might like this guys stuff ;) http://heer46.blogspot.co.uk/
FiB do some cool stuff too, but I cant be doing with based vehicles :(


Peter Pig do a E100 (Maus) in 1:100 for £8. Though historically I believe only one was finished completely.
Saying that, what-ifs can be fun. It would just be a pain to work out the values and rules.

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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Tommen » Tuesday 20th November, 2012 3:16 am

Foz wrote:Peter Pig do a E100 (Maus) in 1:100 for £8. Though historically I believe only one was finished completely.
Saying that, what-ifs can be fun. It would just be a pain to work out the values and rules.

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The Maus model is pretty cool and I might get it just for fun, but the E-100 was a different and slightly lighter tank. Both Maus prototypes were nicked by the Russians and are living in museums, and the Brits found the unfinished E-100 hull and then scrapped it :(

As for a statline I'd use something like

Weapon

Range: 48"/120cm; ROF: 2; Anti-tank: 17; Firepower 2+

Armour

Front: 16; Side: 13; Top: 2

Equipment and Notes
Very slow tank,
Unreliable,
Overloaded,
OhgodAdolfwhatwereyouthinking?!*

*any time the vehicle attempts to cross a street or bridge or go through a building make a skill check, if passed the vehicle is fine, if failed the vehicle falls through the surface and into the sewers/river/basement and is destroyed.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Foz » Tuesday 20th November, 2012 11:25 am

Tommen wrote:The Maus model is pretty cool and I might get it just for fun, but the E-100 was a different and slightly lighter tank. Both Maus prototypes were nicked by the Russians and are living in museums, and the Brits found the unfinished E-100 hull and then scrapped it :(

Yep, I wasn't drinking tea last night and hadn't looked at the data correctly. I have seen the Maus referenced as a E100, and the pictures of the correct E100 too over time.

Tommen wrote:Weapon
Range: 48"/120cm; ROF: 2; Anti-tank: 17; Firepower 2+

Don't forget the 75mm coax as well, a slightly shorter version than the one on a Panzer IV.

Tommen wrote:OhgodAdolfwhatwereyouthinking?!*

*any time the vehicle attempts to cross a street or bridge or go through a building make a skill check, if passed the vehicle is fine, if failed the vehicle falls through the surface and into the sewers/river/basement and is destroyed.

... or just 'Super Heavy Tank' ;-)

I need to work out the stat lines and points for the Comet soon, though it's pretty much a Challenger without the bad bits.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby seriesofbadjokes » Saturday 24th November, 2012 12:42 am

Right, was in Wargames Emporium and they had a copy of Grey Wolf in (Eastern Front Axis forces late war) so I've bought it with a view to getting (probably) a Finnish force, liking the look of an Pioneerikomppnaia (Enginerring Infantry company) with some tank/artillery support. I'll bring the book down tomorrow for people to look at.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby noodle » Sunday 25th November, 2012 10:21 am

Campaign featuring mid/late war armies starts in spring. Ill need to get that book and the rules!
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Tommen » Tuesday 27th November, 2012 3:27 am

I'm going to start bringing some FoW stuff alongside my 40k so I can get to grips with the rules a bit :). Im going to try fit a bunch of different stuff in a list to learn how they all work but how many points should I be looking at? 1000-1500 to keep it reasonably quick?
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Sam » Tuesday 27th November, 2012 10:23 am

A 1500 point army with Flames of War is still a pretty quick game compared to some other wargames and those few extra points allows you to field a god number of different units to get a good feel for the game. 1000 points is fine, but the extra 500 may actually help with getting to grips with the rules.
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Talorian » Tuesday 27th November, 2012 11:44 am

Sam, you'll have to elaborate as to what the god number is. Maybe it's applicable to other games too ;)
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Rick » Tuesday 27th November, 2012 1:53 pm

I'll also be bringing my FoW along, although not this week as its the 40k campaign day. I've read the rules too, so happy to coach/demo.

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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Foz » Tuesday 27th November, 2012 9:38 pm

My 11th Armoured Division is currently stuck waiting for Plastic Soldier Company to release bits. Around March I have been informed on British M5 halftracks, and though I forgot to ask, I assume the infantry too.

Also while on the phone, I got a few more snippets...
Chaffees are on the list to do, and may get bumped up as there is a lot more interest.
M4A3 (early) Shermans are in the works. But probably no M4A3E2 (jumbos).
A conversion kit for Shermans is in the works with wadding kits, dozer blades, cullen hedgerow cutters etc. (No exact details)
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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby seriesofbadjokes » Sunday 13th January, 2013 3:23 pm

I haz tanks!

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Re: Flames of War 3rd Ed

Postby Tommen » Tuesday 15th January, 2013 2:15 am

Foz wrote:my conversation seemed to convince Will that they would be a good idea.

Tell him that if he makes a second, late-war german infantry box with some assault rifles and new poses he can have all my money. I love PSC models, but I look at the massive choice of peterpig and FiB models and it makes me sad.
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