The Future of Specialist Games?

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The Future of Specialist Games?

Postby Mattman » Wednesday 1st May, 2013 1:53 pm

In the 4th May WW topic Dave asked this:

Llamahead wrote:Can somebody do me a favour theres a rumour going round the web that they've stopped supporting Specialist Games stuff. I'll be making an order through Wargames Emporium tomorrow hopefully but I'm wondering whether this covers the plastics as well can somebody please ask.


Thought I would start a separate post for discussion rather than fill up the other one.
From what I have read it seems to be the metal stuff, but not all of the items are gone yet.
Although no-one has actually confirmed anything, many rumours from many sources about SG being killed off / re-branded / games re-released, so who knows the actual truth. It just seems that lots of things on the site are no longer available (especially because of panic buying), whether they will be back, no one knows.
Though it will be a sad day if the oldest metal GW model (possibly even just the oldest model) they still produced finally disappears.

Topics are on Tac Coms and Warseer:

http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=24999

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?371097-GW-kills-Specialist-Games

Obviously it depends on what you are after, but for epic there are several other 6mm companies out there and even more starting to appear. If you are after gribbly alien types or anime inspired aliens with mech suits, then take a look at Onslaught Miniatures as they are producing their own range of those under different names.

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Re: The Future of Specialist Games?

Postby noodle » Friday 24th May, 2013 5:20 pm

Coming back to this... Basically everything Specialist (except Bloodbowl because I can see they might want to keep that!) games is going out of support. This is understandable and economical common sense. Even BFG and Epic, which have a loyal following, must have next to no orders vs. 40k and fantasy, and how many times have we heard "company X needs to focus on its core business".

Well, GW's core business is not specialist games. And to be fair, BFG hasn't had an update in forever. Its a shame the models will be OOP, and new people won't be able to easily buy into the games systems, but the loyal following of epic and BFG can continue...

In fact epic has been largely OOP for ages, we don't use the GW rules and soon we won't even use the models!! - so I don't think this is a "bad" thing.

Not sure where you would stand if you published your own updated BFG rules now then... Can't really be IP infringement if its out of support... (lack of law knowledge).

Anyway I'll still be playing epic and BFG :)

On GW the effect of this ought to be a more streamlined business, allowing more focus on new and better models and rules in their "core business"*
*note I didn't say less expensive...
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Re: The Future of Specialist Games?

Postby Morph » Friday 24th May, 2013 5:36 pm

Well there's always the rumour that by raising prices, aggressively protecting their IP and stopping production on the minor game they're pushing up short term profits in an attempt to sell the company.
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Re: The Future of Specialist Games?

Postby noodle » Friday 24th May, 2013 8:14 pm

Maaaybe. Seems more like trying to make more profit full stop - a lot of companies are "focussing on their core business" right now.
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Re: The Future of Specialist Games?

Postby noodle » Saturday 25th May, 2013 9:23 am

Although, analysis of their share price - and more importantly - volume of stock changing hands in 2013... Is highly suspicious!
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