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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby The Kremlin » Thursday 24th October, 2013 2:02 pm

Awesome! Look forward to seeing them on the table :D
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby IronWithin » Thursday 24th October, 2013 6:47 pm

*grumble* Charadons do Chaos Space Marines better than Chaos Space Marines for less *grumble*
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby Comrade_Nikolai » Thursday 24th October, 2013 7:08 pm

yeah, but no helldrake...
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby IronWithin » Thursday 24th October, 2013 10:06 pm

Common argument everyone puts to Chaos players, and the consensus is 'We'd give up the Helldrake in a heartbeat if we can have decent Chaos Marines'
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby The Kremlin » Friday 25th October, 2013 7:01 pm

Actually, the Astral Claws make a quite nice, probably somewhat less strong alternative to White Scars tactics for my army... No Khan, but I don't want to use him every game anyway.

There's also some rather nasty fun to be had with the master of the forge special character and giving an 8+1 bike squad poison(2+) with their twinlinked boltguns, but I think I'll pass on that one for now :-)
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby Comrade_Nikolai » Friday 25th October, 2013 8:51 pm

IronWithin wrote:Common argument everyone puts to Chaos players, and the consensus is 'We'd give up the Helldrake in a heartbeat if we can have decent Chaos Marines'


Really? You're claiming you'd give up a flying baleflamer for tac marines? And this is the consensus amongst all chaos marine players? Interesting...
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby Morph » Friday 25th October, 2013 11:55 pm

I'd rather lose a unit that causes all opponents to moan and complain to make basic troops better, yes,
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby IronWithin » Saturday 26th October, 2013 11:02 am

Comrade_Nikolai wrote:Really? You're claiming you'd give up a flying baleflamer for tac marines? And this is the consensus amongst all chaos marine players? Interesting...

No not Tactical Marines, Chaos Space Marines, veterans unfettered by the restraints of the Codex Astartes who have made pacts with the creatures of hell for even more power etc etc. etc. To point out; Tactical Marines for 1 point more have AtskNf, Combat Tactics and Chapter Tactics my veterans of 10k years have forgotten all their tactics and abilities beyond being a mook in power armour. B&C's Chaos section has a 19 page thread dedicated to complaints about the Codex (and for the most part has remained constructive and not ranty)

But yes, the Baledrake dominates the game, it's bent as hell in local games and most Chaos players (that I've spoken to) are acutely aware of it and would much rather have an army that interacts and works beyond relying on the turkey to get them by. It causes some epic nerd rage after it's author is also the author of Codex Daemons and Codex Eldar...

Iron Warriors are stubborn siege specialists, bitter and technologically proficient. Not mooks who run away as quickly as Guardsmen and get beaten at their own game by Imperial Fists, just saying.
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby Comrade_Nikolai » Saturday 26th October, 2013 11:53 am

ah, I see the issue, we're arguing from a fluff and a power level perspective and as such are unlikely to reach agreement.

I'm still going to throw out there that most marine players don't think tactical marines are good enough either. We don't get cultists or plague zombies as troops, but we do get bikes... It's a shame though as I would kind of like not to feel like I'm hamstringing myself by taking a fluffy tac squad (it'd be fluffier if it was painted)(current army has 2 units of 5 scouts, 2 units of 10 tacticals and 5 bikes as troops).

I would like to add though that if you think the Imperial fist rules represent your Iron Warriors better, then most of the Society probably wouldn't begrudge you using them instead of the Chaos book.
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby IronWithin » Saturday 26th October, 2013 6:23 pm

It's what I've been considering for a bit. I would have to figure a way to counts as my daemon Engines as Imperial equivalent. My alternative is to see what the 30k Iron Warriors are like and maybe use them. Yeah I'm arguing from a fluff perspective largely I am looking at the power level.

I think people who argue that Tac marines aren't powerful enough aren't using them for the right things. They haven't got the oompf of crisis suits etc. but they aren't meant to.
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby noodle » Monday 28th October, 2013 11:35 am

Update - snapshot of this Saturday's Campaign events...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8Sfelv9W_jc/U ... 013M42.PNG
http://alephsector.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector blog
http://alephsectorfiction.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector fiction
http://ww2campaign.blogspot.co.uk/ <---- WW2 campaign
http://palurin.blogspot.com/ <---- Warhammer campaign
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby Talorian » Monday 28th October, 2013 2:20 pm

IronWithin wrote: My alternative is to see what the 30k Iron Warriors are like and maybe use them.


If you mean the legion lists from the ForgeWorld Horus Heresy books, then they are pretty bent and are meant to face off against each other and not other 40k armies. You have to remember they wrote those books with the Adeptus Astartes being at the height of their power in mind, so there are lots of janky rules.

Plus the armies allow you to take the Primarchs!
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby seriesofbadjokes » Monday 28th October, 2013 6:47 pm

Primarchs are Lords of War choice so only by choice of both players. Most of the other stuff is good but very expensive points wise - it would be interesting to try out the 30k army vs a 40k army (friendly obviously)!
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby noodle » Wednesday 30th October, 2013 5:47 pm

Lots of new updates on the blog!

http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/
http://alephsector.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector blog
http://alephsectorfiction.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector fiction
http://ww2campaign.blogspot.co.uk/ <---- WW2 campaign
http://palurin.blogspot.com/ <---- Warhammer campaign
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby noodle » Wednesday 6th November, 2013 12:09 pm

Blog is up to date, though doesn't include games from yesterday... Though with the Novgorod Guard actually beating the Tau/Eldar alliance (thanks to a brilliant change of leadsership perhaps? ;) ) there will be rejoicing in high command...

http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/
http://alephsector.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector blog
http://alephsectorfiction.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector fiction
http://ww2campaign.blogspot.co.uk/ <---- WW2 campaign
http://palurin.blogspot.com/ <---- Warhammer campaign
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby The Kremlin » Wednesday 6th November, 2013 4:15 pm

The Novgorod plan revealed - the tau/eldar allies have to run out of ammunition eventually!
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby noodle » Wednesday 6th November, 2013 5:53 pm

Any results from yesterday or tomorrow post here :)

I know:
Nids vs chaos epic 4k - win to nids
Novgorod guard vs. taudar - 2pt win to imperium
Eldar vs iron warriors @2k - 8-6 to chaos
http://alephsector.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector blog
http://alephsectorfiction.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector fiction
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby noodle » Thursday 14th November, 2013 11:39 am

Blog now updated with recent stories...

Chaos defeats
The forces of chaos suffered a series of setbacks in early 11.013M42 on a number of fronts, bringing a half to a run of successful campaigns throught the second half of 013.M42.
http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/chaos-defeats.html

Tau frustrated on Tyranteous
As 11.013M42 progressed into the second week, the alliance could have been forgiven for thinking the war on Tyranteous was over. Despite Luthor's edict, the tau had control of most of the planet, and the imperium were bottled up into three small bridgeheads and under pressure just to hold the line. However as the tau attacks battered themselves against imperial defences in their impatience to complete the invasion and move on to Zadoc, Cunningham concieved a counter attack, against Luthor's edict.
http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/tau-frustrated-on-tyranteous.html

Hylas: Imperium regains West Coast
Following the loss of West Coast at the end of 10.013M42, general Van Dorn was not content to sit on the defensive. Instead with the help of the Apocalypse Riders and Adeptus Mechanicus, he worked on a plan to push forward once again. West Coast had been fought over again and again, with the front line moving north and south as the initiative changed sides. On 0811.013M42 with the main imperial guard units pulled out of the line into reserve, Van Dorn launched his new offensive.
http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/hylas-imperium-regains-west-coast.html

Necrons regain initiative on Corticant
The response to the losses of territory on Corticant from the Harakthy Dynasty was swift. If General Veers had hoped the necron empire was in decline he was disappoined on 0811.013M42 as the necrons launched a two pronged offensive north towards the settlement of Violetwind Coast.
http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/necrons-regain-initiative-on-corticant.html

Kabal of the Venom Drake suffer reversals
Since 09.013M42 the Kabal of the Venom Drake had been raiding in the Aleph Sector. Drawn by what no one could say, but it quickly became evident they were not part of the alliance and were simply out for personal gain.
http://alephsector.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/kabal-of-venom-drake-suffer-reversals.html
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http://alephsectorfiction.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector fiction
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby noodle » Friday 22nd November, 2013 7:54 pm

Blog up to date!
http://alephsector.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector blog
http://alephsectorfiction.blogspot.com/ <---- Aleph sector fiction
http://ww2campaign.blogspot.co.uk/ <---- WW2 campaign
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Re: Aleph Sector Campaign

Postby Namhaft » Tuesday 3rd December, 2013 10:15 pm

Result:
Iyanden vs carcharodons
2000pts
Eldar 4pt win (massacre)
Lots of eldar infantry died but I got overwhelmed by wave serpents.
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